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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.07.28 12:23:00 -
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Regardless of GAME mechanics, the theory behind the whole "loot is owned, salvage is not" seems a bit ******ed...
Can you imagine wrenching a famous ship like the Mary Rose or titanic from the deep (regardless of where they lie), all the while screaming "ITS OK BECAUSE WE AREN'T TAKING ANY OF THE CARGO"
Whats that? You crashed your car? Lemme just get those panels, bumpers and windows brah, but don't worry i won't touch the stereo.
I know, comparing eve to RL is lame etc etc... But the idea that a wreck and it's contents are 2 separate things is ridiculous.
Personally I don't think the wreck OR the loot should be owned, most of the time you're in a deadspace pocket, free to salvage alone for the most part anyway.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.07.28 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Traffic Warden This has been addressed many, many times.
CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.
Per CCP Incognito : Originally by: CCP Incognito Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.
(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com
None of those explain how loot floating in space is different from salvage floating in space...
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.07.28 15:09:00 -
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So in conclusion -
Salvage is not owned, but loot for some reason IS owned, for no other reason than for funsies.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.08.04 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Finishline Dear CCP,
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but I'll hope you'll at least try and answer the question on why ninja salvaging and ninja looting are treated seperately.
Kind regards,
Finishline Radiant Force
Sure are a lot of angry folk frothing at the mouth in here, maybe they should read the op before posting.
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